And one of the most memorable moments prior to the aging scenes

Post by Rivergoat
Anybody else really sit up and take notice when Durrell mentions,
"...my Dad, Keith, used to be a policeman...."
Durrell finally feels comfortable enough to call Keith his Dad. Very
cool...

And to see Keith raise his eyebrows in response.

Maybe Keith actually feeling comfortable enough to experience being a
Dad.

somebody

2005-09-01 14:54:59 UTC

Post by Rivergoat
Anybody else really sit up and take notice when Durrell mentions,
"...my Dad, Keith, used to be a policeman...."

And then Claire says "He looked really good in a uniform" (referring back to
the first time she saw him).

Patricia Butler

2005-08-23 18:28:24 UTC

Yeah, I noticed that. That was good.

FatKat

2005-08-23 19:27:39 UTC

I missed that - mostly because I thought Durrell had little trouble
adapting to Kieth. It was Durrell's relationship with David that looks
to be a futile cause.

manitou

2005-08-23 20:41:21 UTC

Post by FatKat
I missed that - mostly because I thought Durrell had little trouble
adapting to Kieth. It was Durrell's relationship with David that looks
to be a futile cause.

koo~wuhll ...!

C.

Patricia Butler

2005-08-23 23:57:58 UTC

Post by FatKat
I missed that - mostly because I thought Durrell had little trouble
adapting to Kieth. It was Durrell's relationship with David that looks
to be a futile cause.

How do you reckon?

FatKat

2005-08-24 03:00:44 UTC

Post by FatKat
I missed that - mostly because I thought Durrell had little trouble
adapting to Kieth. It was Durrell's relationship with David that looks
to be a futile cause.

How do you reckon?

I just never see them connect at all, nor any hint of it. David just
tries, subconciously, to earn Durrell's approval - whether it's the
Playstation from that early ep. or his choice of words ("cool") - and
Durrell never reciprocates.

Patricia Butler

2005-08-24 04:50:43 UTC

Post by FatKat
I missed that - mostly because I thought Durrell had little trouble
adapting to Kieth. It was Durrell's relationship with David that looks
to be a futile cause.

How do you reckon?

Durrell had a problem with Keith, never with David. That's why it was
so notable when Durrell called Keith his dad. But there was never any
noticabl problem between David and Durrell. Didn't you see how upset
Durrell got when David was going to leave, accusing him of leaving them
with "him" (Keith). And later David showing Durrell how to embalm a
body?

FatKat

2005-08-24 14:19:28 UTC

Post by FatKat
I missed that - mostly because I thought Durrell had little trouble
adapting to Kieth. It was Durrell's relationship with David that looks
to be a futile cause.

How do you reckon?

My apologies, I actually missed part of the final ep., Looks like I'll
have to re-watch.

Sparky Spartacus

2005-08-24 19:29:45 UTC

Post by FatKat
I missed that - mostly because I thought Durrell had little trouble
adapting to Kieth. It was Durrell's relationship with David that looks
to be a futile cause.

How do you reckon?

My apologies, I actually missed part of the final ep., Looks like I'll
have to re-watch.

That bit seemed awfully unlikely, but who knows?

Patricia Butler

2005-08-24 19:32:47 UTC

Post by Sparky Spartacus

Post by FatKat
I missed that - mostly because I thought Durrell had little trouble
adapting to Kieth. It was Durrell's relationship with David that looks
to be a futile cause.

How do you reckon?

My apologies, I actually missed part of the final ep., Looks like I'll
have to re-watch.

That bit seemed awfully unlikely, but who knows?

Apparently he went into the family business. I believe that was
Durrell working with David at Ruth's funeral, wasn't it?

FatKat

2005-08-24 14:21:00 UTC

Post by FatKat
I missed that - mostly because I thought Durrell had little trouble
adapting to Kieth. It was Durrell's relationship with David that looks
to be a futile cause.

How do you reckon?

My apologies, I actually missed part of the final ep., Looks like I'll
have to re-watch.

b***@yahoo.com

2005-08-23 19:47:39 UTC

I loved that moment too, comfortable enough to call him dad, proud
enough to brag a little bit. It was very touching to me.

b***@yahoo.com

2005-08-23 19:49:01 UTC

Oh and I loved Claire saying, "I know he looked hot in his uniform."
Reminded me of first season when she had made a few comments about how
hot Keith was (because she is apparently not blind--yet).

manitou

2005-08-23 20:42:13 UTC

Oh and I loved Claire saying, "I know he looked hot in his uniform."
Reminded me of first season when she had made a few comments about how
hot Keith was (because she is apparently not blind--yet).

Brenda thought Keith was pretty hot when she first met him.

C.

b or t k-c

2005-08-23 20:53:12 UTC

Brenda thought Keith was pretty hot...

Who didn't?

...................

Oh and I loved Claire saying, "I know he looked hot in his uniform."
Reminded me of first season when she had made a few comments about how
hot Keith was (because she is apparently not blind--yet).

Brenda thought Keith was pretty hot when she first met him.
C.

manitou

2005-08-23 21:26:31 UTC

Post by b or t k-c

Brenda thought Keith was pretty hot...

Who didn't?

My astrologer (female) also thought he was real hot!

C.

Tina

2005-08-24 03:49:38 UTC

Post by manitou

Oh and I loved Claire saying, "I know he looked hot in his uniform."
Reminded me of first season when she had made a few comments about how
hot Keith was (because she is apparently not blind--yet).

Brenda thought Keith was pretty hot when she first met him.

Damn, that man *is* hot!

Tina

!! (Kira Dirlik)

2005-08-24 16:38:46 UTC

Post by manitou
Brenda thought Keith was pretty hot when she first met him.

Damn, that man *is* hot!
Tina

I've been reading all these hundreds of messages and NO one has even
mentioned what a cute butt Ted has! That scene with him walking down
the hall away from the bed! mmmmmm
Kira

Sparky Spartacus

2005-08-24 19:30:15 UTC

Post by !! (Kira Dirlik)

Post by manitou
Brenda thought Keith was pretty hot when she first met him.

Damn, that man *is* hot!
Tina

I've been reading all these hundreds of messages and NO one has even
mentioned what a cute butt Ted has! That scene with him walking down
the hall away from the bed! mmmmmm
Kira

You didn't expect me to mention it, did you? ;)

b or t k-c

2005-08-25 01:34:06 UTC

Post by !! (Kira Dirlik)
I've been reading all these hundreds of messages and NO one has even
mentioned what a cute butt Ted has!

Shhh!!! Let's keep that to ourselves!

...................

Post by !! (Kira Dirlik)

Post by manitou
Brenda thought Keith was pretty hot when she first met him.

Damn, that man *is* hot!
Tina

I've been reading all these hundreds of messages and NO one has even
mentioned what a cute butt Ted has! That scene with him walking down
the hall away from the bed! mmmmmm
Kira

Mart T. K.

2005-08-25 01:39:25 UTC

Post by !! (Kira Dirlik)
I've been reading all these hundreds of messages and NO one has even
mentioned what a cute butt Ted has!

yah.... for a Republican.... they usual have no asses because they are big
asses

!! (Kira Dirlik)

2005-08-25 12:43:38 UTC

Post by Mart T. K.

Post by !! (Kira Dirlik)
I've been reading all these hundreds of messages and NO one has even
mentioned what a cute butt Ted has!

yah.... for a Republican.... they usual have no asses because they are big
asses

He never admitted to actually being a Republican. I don't think he
was... he was so tolerant, so loving, so caring of Claire in her worst
moments.... no Republican traits that I observed.
Kira

Tina

2005-08-25 15:52:58 UTC

"Kira Dirlik" <<snip>

. I don't think he

Post by !! (Kira Dirlik)
was... he was so tolerant, so loving, so caring of Claire in her worst
moments.... no Republican traits that I observed.
Kira

And no winkie. I've been a card-carrying Dem for 28 years and that is the
most ignorant thing I've ever heard regarding what Republicans are. Do you
live in a hole?

Tina

Patrick

2005-08-25 16:08:37 UTC

Post by Tina
And no winkie. I've been a card-carrying Dem for 28 years and that is
the most ignorant thing I've ever heard regarding what Republicans
are. Do you live in a hole?

A lot of people mistake the current administration for Republicans, which
they aren't, really - at least, not by what the Republican Party has
traditionally stood for. They also aren't conservatives (Konservatives,
perhaps), but are really more radical corporatists.

jcoulter

2005-08-25 16:15:26 UTC

Post by Tina
And no winkie. I've been a card-carrying Dem for 28 years and that is
the most ignorant thing I've ever heard regarding what Republicans
are. Do you live in a hole?

A lot of people mistake the current administration for Republicans,
which they aren't, really - at least, not by what the Republican Party
has traditionally stood for. They also aren't conservatives
(Konservatives, perhaps), but are really more radical corporatists.

Remember when the Republican party stood for fiscal integrity? My mother
used to say Democrats started wars and Republicans ended them. Those were
the days my friends . . .

--
Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/

Userb3

2005-08-25 16:25:41 UTC

Post by Patrick
A lot of people mistake the current administration for Republicans,
which they aren't, really - at least, not by what the Republican Party
has traditionally stood for. They also aren't conservatives
(Konservatives, perhaps), but are really more radical corporatists.

A lot of people mistake hyperbolic criticism and two dimensional
characitures for the real flesh and blood people who run the country. I
suppose its easier to imagine politics in black and white than to actually
consider the perspective of the other guys, and allow for the possibility
that they may occasionally be right about something.

--
***@yahoo.com
http://www.gopchoice.org/

notherenow

2005-08-25 19:30:07 UTC

You're right. The leaders of this country are real flesh and blood
people, not two-dimensional card-board cut outs (although sometimes they
act like it).

The real flesh and blood people who run the country are the real flesh
and blood beneficiaries of the vastly increasing wealth of the
corporations and industries that are raking in most of the money being
spent by taxpayers on a war that they themselves manipulated the country
into using lies, deceit, and trickery.

notherenow

2005-08-25 20:03:44 UTC

In article

You're right. The leaders of this country are real flesh and blood
people, not two-dimensional card-board cut outs (although sometimes they
act like it).
The real flesh and blood people who run the country are the real flesh
and blood beneficiaries of the vastly increasing wealth of the
corporations and industries that are raking in most of the money being
spent by taxpayers on a war that they themselves manipulated the country
into using lies, deceit, and trickery.

Sorry to respond to my own message. Just seeing it again and realizing
that the referent in the last sentence makes it seem like I'm saying
that the taxpayers committed lies, deceit, and trickery. I would
suppose you'd guess by the tone of my message that I don't mean to imply
that taxpayers did anything wrong, but that I meant to say our flesh and
blood leaders hoodwinked the country.

Charlie9

2005-08-26 11:15:04 UTC

Post by notherenow
Sorry to respond to my own message. Just seeing it again and realizing
that the referent in the last sentence makes it seem like I'm saying
that the taxpayers committed lies, deceit, and trickery. I would
suppose you'd guess by the tone of my message that I don't mean to imply
that taxpayers did anything wrong, but that I meant to say our flesh and
blood leaders hoodwinked the country.

I don't think anyone missunderstood your message. It's not like it's
an original thought or anything. We've heard it all before.

notherenow

2005-08-26 14:53:06 UTC

Post by Charlie9

I don't think anyone missunderstood your message. It's not like it's
an original thought or anything. We've heard it all before.

So maybe you'll start comprehending soon?

Sparky Spartacus

2005-08-25 20:38:36 UTC

Oh, we allow for it and hope the Bushies manage to get something right
before Dubya leaves office.

BTW, you sound like quite the moderate here --- not!

Userb3

2005-08-25 21:32:52 UTC

Post by Sparky Spartacus
BTW, you sound like quite the moderate here --- not!

Because I don't villanize everyone remotely associated with the current
administration?

--
***@yahoo.com
http://www.gopchoice.org/

Patrick

2005-08-26 01:06:10 UTC

Post by Userb3
Because I don't villanize everyone remotely associated with the
current administration?

Oh, it isn't everyone (remotely or otherwise) associated with the
current administration. There have been quite a few, in fact, who have
resigned out of frustration. When they've gone public, they've been
visciously attacked as malcontents, liars, and loonies.

Read what Paul O'Neil (very conservative - and Republican) had to say
about his experience in the Bush administration. Read what Richard
Clarke (conservative and registered Republican who served both
Republican and Democratic administrations with distinction.

See what Rand Beers had to say, or John O'Neill, whose investigation
into the Saudis was blocked by the Bush administration - and who died in
the World Trade Center.

Look what happened to Joe Wilson, who publicly defied Saddam Hussein by
giving refuge to more than 100 US citizens at the US embassy in Iraq and
in the homes of US diplomats (at a time when Hussein was threatening to
execute anyone who harboured foreigners) and wore a noose to a press
conference, declaring his message to Saddam Hussein was: "If you want to
execute me, I'll bring my own fucking rope."

Look at generals Anthony Zinni and Eric Shinseki, who had he audacity to
speak the truth about what the true costs - in dollars and troops - of
invading and occupying Iraq would be.

No, it isn't everybody. But it *is* the likes of Dick Cheney, Donald
Rumsfeld, Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, "Scooter" Libby, Elliot Abrams, Dov
Zakheim, John Bolton, and Richard Perle.

Userb3

2005-08-26 02:05:54 UTC

Post by Userb3
Because I don't villanize everyone remotely associated with the
current administration?

Oh, it isn't everyone (remotely or otherwise) associated with the
current administration. There have been quite a few, in fact, who have
resigned out of frustration.

So your standard WOULD be that everyone in the current administration is
some sort of villian. Thanks for being open minded and helping to establish
some sort of common ground.

--
***@yahoo.com
http://www.gopchoice.org/

Crystal

2005-08-26 02:18:18 UTC

Post by Userb3
Because I don't villanize everyone remotely associated with the
current administration?

Oh, it isn't everyone (remotely or otherwise) associated with the
current administration. There have been quite a few, in fact, who have
resigned out of frustration.

So your standard WOULD be that everyone in the current administration is
some sort of villian. Thanks for being open minded and helping to establish
some sort of common ground.

why yes, now that you mention it, I see the entire administration as a group
of villians, there is not one that I like, admire or respect in the bunch

Patrick

2005-08-26 02:33:17 UTC

Post by Userb3
So your standard WOULD be that everyone in the current administration
is some sort of villian.

No, it wouldn't. But the ones making the policy, yes. Or. rather, the
ones trying to shove *their* policy down the throats of others. And not
villains, really (some, maybe; I think Karl Rove is pretty sleazy).
These are the people who make up the Project for a New American Century.
Some of what they say is worth considering (agree or disagree, you can
still consider what they have to say). I just don't think they've been
good for this country - or the world.

And I wouldn't say that everything they've done has been wrong, either.
I think the threat of force made Saddam accept very intrusive weapons
inspections, for instance.

I think taking out the Taliban and going after Osama was justified. I
also think leaving Afghanistan to focus on Iraq was a bad move.

I think the Iraq invasion was wrong, and the occupation was done
incompetently. I think you'll find plenty of Republicans who will say
the same thing.

I think major corporations have too much say on how policy is
determined. This isn't new, by any stretch, and it isn't limited to one
political party. In general, I don't like any of them. Unless I have a
clear reason to vote *for* an incumbent, I vote for somebody else. We
can get *them* out next time around.

There was a lot I didn't like about the previous adminstration, too.
All-in-all, though, I think Clinton was the best Republican president
we've had in a long time. How he got tagged a liberal is beyond me.

But, anyway, lest this become like the West Wing newsgroup, I'd just as
soon talk SFU.

So, how 'bout that finale, huh? I really will miss the show. Whether
or not you think it wasn't as good after the first season or two, it
sure beats the crap out of 90% (or more) of what's out there.

notherenow

2005-08-26 14:49:26 UTC

Post by Userb3
So your standard WOULD be that everyone in the current administration
is some sort of villian.

No, it wouldn't. But the ones making the policy, yes. Or. rather, the
ones trying to shove *their* policy down the throats of others. And not
villains, really (some, maybe; I think Karl Rove is pretty sleazy).
These are the people who make up the Project for a New American Century.
Some of what they say is worth considering (agree or disagree, you can
still consider what they have to say). I just don't think they've been
good for this country - or the world.
And I wouldn't say that everything they've done has been wrong, either.
I think the threat of force made Saddam accept very intrusive weapons
inspections, for instance.
I think taking out the Taliban and going after Osama was justified. I
also think leaving Afghanistan to focus on Iraq was a bad move.
I think the Iraq invasion was wrong, and the occupation was done
incompetently. I think you'll find plenty of Republicans who will say
the same thing.
I think major corporations have too much say on how policy is
determined. This isn't new, by any stretch, and it isn't limited to one
political party. In general, I don't like any of them. Unless I have a
clear reason to vote *for* an incumbent, I vote for somebody else. We
can get *them* out next time around.
There was a lot I didn't like about the previous adminstration, too.
All-in-all, though, I think Clinton was the best Republican president
we've had in a long time. How he got tagged a liberal is beyond me.

I very much appreciate your posts in this thread. Thank you.

Post by Patrick
But, anyway, lest this become like the West Wing newsgroup, I'd just as
soon talk SFU.
So, how 'bout that finale, huh? I really will miss the show. Whether
or not you think it wasn't as good after the first season or two, it
sure beats the crap out of 90% (or more) of what's out there.

Sparky Spartacus

2005-08-26 06:32:41 UTC

Post by Userb3
Because I don't villanize everyone remotely associated with the
current administration?

Oh, it isn't everyone (remotely or otherwise) associated with the
current administration. There have been quite a few, in fact, who have
resigned out of frustration.

So your standard WOULD be that everyone in the current administration is
some sort of villian.

No, that's the conclusion based on 5 long years of the Boy King and his
court. The *standard* seems to be set by Bush, who penalizes people who
are right but disagree with him and who rewards those who toe the party
line, no matter if there are fuckups along the way.

Post by Userb3
Thanks for being open minded and helping to establish
some sort of common ground.

Open minds draw conclusions based on their empirical observations &
analysis, totally unlike the rightwingnuts, and the Bushies come up
short. Sorry.

If people were posting such condemnations of the Bushies before Dubya
took office, that would have been evidence of closed minds/prejudice;
but we open minded folks waited to see Bush's record and drew
conclusions accordingly.

notherenow

2005-08-26 14:47:00 UTC

Post by Sparky Spartacus

Post by Userb3
Because I don't villanize everyone remotely associated with the
current administration?

Oh, it isn't everyone (remotely or otherwise) associated with the
current administration. There have been quite a few, in fact, who have
resigned out of frustration.

So your standard WOULD be that everyone in the current administration is
some sort of villian.

Post by Userb3
Thanks for being open minded and helping to establish
some sort of common ground.

Open minds draw conclusions based on their empirical observations &
analysis, totally unlike the rightwingnuts, and the Bushies come up
short. Sorry.
If people were posting such condemnations of the Bushies before Dubya
took office, that would have been evidence of closed minds/prejudice;
but we open minded folks waited to see Bush's record and drew
conclusions accordingly.

May I ask for one small exception to your last paragraph. There were a
good many Texans who knew Dubya from his tenure in Austin. Our speaking
out in advance of the growing body of national/federal evidence was
based on our experience and was neither closed mindedness or prejudice.
Y'all remember Texas, right? We're ranked among the lowest in
education, child care, family support, and health and among the highest
in prison population and death row executions. Y'all remember Governor
George W. Bush who distinguished himself in three notable ways: (1) he
put large numbers of death row inmates to death, (2) he legalized
concealed weapons, and (3) he cut taxes business taxes in a state
without an income tax. Before he became the guv, he made his fortune
heading up one failed business after another. I'm not too proud to say,
we told you so. We told you this guy is preoccupied with violence and
personal gain.

Userb3

2005-08-26 15:30:19 UTC

Post by notherenow
There were a
good many Texans who knew Dubya from his tenure in Austin.

Yes, a good many Texans who apparently kept voting for him.

--
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http://www.gopchoice.org/

notherenow

2005-08-26 17:47:52 UTC

Post by notherenow
There were a
good many Texans who knew Dubya from his tenure in Austin.

Yes, a good many Texans who apparently kept voting for him.

True, in the last elections there have been more Republican voters in
Texas and it is a remarkable phenomenon. However the number of people
who are willing like lemmings to follow the king's procession does not
negate the fact that he is naked.

Userb3

2005-08-26 18:14:13 UTC

Post by notherenow
There were a
good many Texans who knew Dubya from his tenure in Austin.

Yes, a good many Texans who apparently kept voting for him.

50 million Elvis fans can't be wrong.

--
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http://www.gopchoice.org/

Sparky Spartacus

2005-08-27 01:51:08 UTC

Post by notherenow
There were a
good many Texans who knew Dubya from his tenure in Austin.

Yes, a good many Texans who apparently kept voting for him.

50 million Elvis fans can't be wrong.

The Boy King is still naked.

Tina

2005-08-27 00:05:48 UTC

Post by notherenow
There were a
good many Texans who knew Dubya from his tenure in Austin.

Yes, a good many Texans who apparently kept voting for him.

True. I think what depresses me more than what this admin is *doing*, is how
many people are willing to *dismiss* the harm. But it takes effort to keep
up with what's really going on and speak out. I wish I'd invested in
*blinders* six years ago, I didn't know they'd be so popular.

Tina
Never used to be so political, never need to...:(

Sparky Spartacus

2005-08-26 17:06:08 UTC

Post by Sparky Spartacus

Post by Userb3
Because I don't villanize everyone remotely associated with the
current administration?

Oh, it isn't everyone (remotely or otherwise) associated with the
current administration. There have been quite a few, in fact, who have
resigned out of frustration.

So your standard WOULD be that everyone in the current administration is
some sort of villian.

Post by Userb3
Thanks for being open minded and helping to establish
some sort of common ground.

Open minds draw conclusions based on their empirical observations &
analysis, totally unlike the rightwingnuts, and the Bushies come up
short. Sorry.
If people were posting such condemnations of the Bushies before Dubya
took office, that would have been evidence of closed minds/prejudice;
but we open minded folks waited to see Bush's record and drew
conclusions accordingly.

Of course, I was referring to those of us (most of the US, I'd guess).
If you already knew him & his record, of course you drew your own
conclusions. Looks as though you Texas folks simply got a head start on
Bush bashing before the other 49.

Besides, I don't know anyone in Texas. ;)

Tina

2005-08-25 19:23:13 UTC

Post by Tina
And no winkie. I've been a card-carrying Dem for 28 years and that is
the most ignorant thing I've ever heard regarding what Republicans
are. Do you live in a hole?

Very appropo discription IMO.

Kira may actually not know *any* Republicans that displayed the qualities we
admired in Ted (almost called him "Ken" :). So it may seems I was harsh to
her, and I'm sorry for that. All I kept thinking whle I was reading her
words was about the wonderful friends and family I know who are Republicans.
They may not give a shit about the immigrant standing in front of the Home
Depot looking for work, or drilling for oil on formerly protected lands, but
they would give you the shirt of their backs, get up in the middle of the
night to comfort you....take you to your brother in the hospital. I think of
all the kind people Kira probably knows whose political affiliation she
doesn't know.

Tina

notherenow

2005-08-25 19:44:26 UTC

Post by Tina
And no winkie. I've been a card-carrying Dem for 28 years and that is
the most ignorant thing I've ever heard regarding what Republicans
are. Do you live in a hole?

Very appropo discription IMO.
Kira may actually not know *any* Republicans that displayed the qualities we
admired in Ted (almost called him "Ken" :). So it may seems I was harsh to
her, and I'm sorry for that. All I kept thinking whle I was reading her
words was about the wonderful friends and family I know who are Republicans.
They may not give a shit about the immigrant standing in front of the Home
Depot looking for work, or drilling for oil on formerly protected lands, but
they would give you the shirt of their backs, get up in the middle of the
night to comfort you....take you to your brother in the hospital. I think of
all the kind people Kira probably knows whose political affiliation she
doesn't know.
Tina

I'm hoping and praying that those Republicans that you are talking about
will very soon gain power in the party and start the country on the road
back to the 21st century. Anybody have any idea when the real
Republicans will return?

!! (Kira Dirlik)

2005-08-26 20:50:35 UTC

Post by Tina
Kira may actually not know *any* Republicans that displayed the qualities we
admired in Ted (almost called him "Ken" :). So it may seems I was harsh to
her, and I'm sorry for that. All I kept thinking whle I was reading her
words was about the wonderful friends and family I know who are Republicans.
They may not give a shit about the immigrant standing in front of the Home
Depot looking for work, or drilling for oil on formerly protected lands, but
they would give you the shirt of their backs, get up in the middle of the
night to comfort you....take you to your brother in the hospital. I think of
all the kind people Kira probably knows whose political affiliation she
doesn't know.
Tina

Previous post before I read this explains my family. My Aunt, 85, is
a rabid Republican. She put bumper stickers on her kitchen wall that
said "America, Love it or Leave it" back in the day. She says, "My
grandmother was a republican. How could I be otherwise?" Her
grandmother was a republican in the 1910's. I think there has been
some evolution since then. However, she has ALWAYS been the family
caregiver whenever anyone got sick or died.
I was talking about the Latter Day Republicans... the Neo-cons. And I
see them on our local community listservs, I hear them making mocking
comments to me about my Kerry bumper sticker on my car. I read about
all the things previously listed here by Patrick and Notherenow and
others (that I won't take your time to reread). I frankly can't think
of a current (serious) Neo-con who isn't quite cold, aggressive,
manipulative, selfish, etc etc. But many Republicans are of the
Brittany Spears type... "Duuuuhhh, he is my president so he must know
what he is doing."
Kira

!! (Kira Dirlik)

2005-08-26 20:35:39 UTC

Post by Tina
And no winkie. I've been a card-carrying Dem for 28 years and that is
the most ignorant thing I've ever heard regarding what Republicans
are. Do you live in a hole?

Well, they are generally called Neo-cons, these days. Sorry, Tina.
My whole family of origin are Republicans. I voted for Barry
Goldwater in my first election. Been Demo ever since. I am very
conservative (environmentally & financially). I don't see my values
anywhere in the current Republican party, and the Rove evil tricks,
the cruelty, lies, waste of others' money, selfishness, manipulations,
science-bashing, "my way is the right way" attitudes, are becoming
more and more acceptable in society at large. Sometimes I wish I DID
live in a hole, not to have to see what "we" have become.
Kira

Tina

2005-08-27 00:07:47 UTC

Post by !! (Kira Dirlik)

Post by Tina
And no winkie. I've been a card-carrying Dem for 28 years and that is
the most ignorant thing I've ever heard regarding what Republicans
are. Do you live in a hole?

That makes sense. I too don't see the current administration as traditional
Republicans. I've never felt such fear regarding my leaders.

Tina

somebody

2005-08-27 15:19:30 UTC

Post by !! (Kira Dirlik)
I've been reading all these hundreds of messages and NO one has even
mentioned what a cute butt Ted has! That scene with him walking down
the hall away from the bed! mmmmmm
Kira

well, if's so magnificent; why wasn't it on the wall with the photos??

!! (Kira Dirlik)

2005-08-28 00:03:22 UTC

Post by somebody

well, if's so magnificent; why wasn't it on the wall with the photos??

I didn't see her taking a photo of it. But there was a photo on the
wall of him, taken that same morning, leaning on his hand, smiling out
at her.
Kira

somebody

2005-08-28 00:30:54 UTC

Post by !! (Kira Dirlik)
I didn't see her taking a photo of it. But there was a photo on the
wall of him, taken that same morning, leaning on his hand, smiling out
at her.
Kira

yeah, I liked that one very much.

Fragile Warrior

2005-08-23 21:28:46 UTC

Oh and I loved Claire saying, "I know he looked hot in his uniform."
Reminded me of first season when she had made a few comments about how
hot Keith was (because she is apparently not blind--yet).

Keith was hot. Even in his gray goatee...

cee cee

2005-08-23 22:19:40 UTC

If you thought he was hot on this show you should of seen him when he
was on a soap opera I think it was All My Children playing a straight
very sexy guy. They always had scenes of him with his shirt off.
CeeCee

Rivergoat

2005-08-26 02:30:57 UTC

Post by cee cee
If you thought he was hot on this show you should of seen him when he
was on a soap opera I think it was All My Children playing a straight
very sexy guy. They always had scenes of him with his shirt off.
CeeCee

Sorry, all I can think of is how hot Claire looked this season ;)

Tina

2005-08-26 04:49:19 UTC

Post by Rivergoat

Sorry, all I can think of is how hot Claire looked this season ;)

STOP THAT!

Ruth

manitou

2005-08-26 05:10:02 UTC