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funeral for miscarriage?
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somebody else
2005-08-30 06:24:24 UTC
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If a pregnancy ends in miscarriage, is there ever a funeral?

I was reading George Carlin's Napalm and Silly Putty and he mentioned that
80% of conceptions are spontaneously aborted and that if there is a
miscarriage, there is no funeral. (Apparently, most are in the first few
weeks and go unnoticed.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage#Prevalence
J.D. Baldwin
2005-08-30 11:15:44 UTC
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I was reading George Carlin's Napalm and Silly Putty and he
mentioned that 80% of conceptions are spontaneously aborted and that
if there is a miscarriage, there is no funeral. (Apparently, most
are in the first few weeks and go unnoticed.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage#Prevalence
I have seen families do funerals for late-term miscarriages. I knew
one family that had the fetus buried in a cooler. When they moved,
they had it exhumed, transported the cooler in their freakin' car, and
re-buried it at their new home. I'm not easily weirded out, but that
did it for me.
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Film Fan
2005-08-30 15:24:50 UTC
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What do they think it was? A fucking pet?

Something about that doesn't seem legal.
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I was reading George Carlin's Napalm and Silly Putty and he
mentioned that 80% of conceptions are spontaneously aborted and that
if there is a miscarriage, there is no funeral. (Apparently, most
are in the first few weeks and go unnoticed.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage#Prevalence
I have seen families do funerals for late-term miscarriages. I knew
one family that had the fetus buried in a cooler. When they moved,
they had it exhumed, transported the cooler in their freakin' car, and
re-buried it at their new home. I'm not easily weirded out, but that
did it for me.
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_|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |am quite prepared not only to retract it, but also
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Sparky Spartacus
2005-08-30 15:29:09 UTC
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I was reading George Carlin's Napalm and Silly Putty and he
mentioned that 80% of conceptions are spontaneously aborted and that
if there is a miscarriage, there is no funeral. (Apparently, most
are in the first few weeks and go unnoticed.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage#Prevalence
I have seen families do funerals for late-term miscarriages. I knew
one family that had the fetus buried in a cooler. When they moved,
they had it exhumed, transported the cooler in their freakin' car, and
re-buried it at their new home. I'm not easily weirded out, but that
did it for me.
Same here, just plain creepy (IMHO, of course).
b***@yahoo.com
2005-08-30 15:34:47 UTC
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I was reading George Carlin's Napalm and Silly Putty and he
mentioned that 80% of conceptions are spontaneously aborted and that
if there is a miscarriage, there is no funeral. (Apparently, most
are in the first few weeks and go unnoticed.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage#Prevalence
I have seen families do funerals for late-term miscarriages. I knew
one family that had the fetus buried in a cooler. When they moved,
they had it exhumed, transported the cooler in their freakin' car, and
re-buried it at their new home. I'm not easily weirded out, but that
did it for me.
funeral for a miscarriage, it's been done, and I imagine it can help
facilitate, even validatae the greiving.

but burying it in a cooler? exhuming it and moving it later? ewwwwww!!!
icky, weird, wrong!
J.D. Baldwin
2005-08-31 14:31:33 UTC
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but burying it in a cooler?
I really don't have a problem with this part. You need a reasonably
robust, water-resistant container: you can buy a little baby casket
from the funeral home for US$5,000 ... or you can get a Coleman cooler
at Wal-Mart for $15. Easy enough choice. The kid doesn't care, after
all.
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exhuming it and moving it later? ewwwwww!!!
Again, I don't have a problem with this, really -- they weren't the
first people to have a relative's remains exhumed and moved when their
family moved. It's not real common, but it does happen more than you
probably think.

But moving the cooler in the back of their minivan with them -- that
was the bit that knocked my fucked-up-o-meter into the red.

I saw the cooler when they said good-bye, by the way. Normally, I'm
the kind of guy who would at least consider trying to sneak a peek at
something like that. Not this time.
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_|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |am quite prepared not only to retract it, but also
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notherenow
2005-08-31 16:57:00 UTC
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but burying it in a cooler?
I really don't have a problem with this part. You need a reasonably
robust, water-resistant container: you can buy a little baby casket
from the funeral home for US$5,000 ... or you can get a Coleman cooler
at Wal-Mart for $15. Easy enough choice. The kid doesn't care, after
all.
Post by b***@yahoo.com
exhuming it and moving it later? ewwwwww!!!
Again, I don't have a problem with this, really -- they weren't the
first people to have a relative's remains exhumed and moved when their
family moved. It's not real common, but it does happen more than you
probably think.
Nothing like pulling the family tree up by its roots and
taking it along. Seems like a laborious and expensive endeavor.
Post by J.D. Baldwin
But moving the cooler in the back of their minivan with them -- that
was the bit that knocked my fucked-up-o-meter into the red.
I saw the cooler when they said good-bye, by the way. Normally, I'm
the kind of guy who would at least consider trying to sneak a peek at
something like that. Not this time.
So, how did they seal the thing the first time and how did it
hold up over time?
J.D. Baldwin
2005-08-31 17:00:36 UTC
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So, how did they seal the thing the first time and how did it
hold up over time?
The cooler was one of those ones where the lid and handle are
integrated and the whole thing snaps into place. To open it, you
would have to push in the release and rotate the whole lid assembly
aside.

It looked like it had held up fine when I saw it.
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Andy Zoff
2005-08-30 23:09:37 UTC
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 06:24:24 GMT, "somebody else"
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If a pregnancy ends in miscarriage, is there ever a funeral?
Usually the hospital disposes of it. No funeral. No cooler to
re-locate.
somebody
2005-08-31 00:44:55 UTC
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If a pregnancy ends in miscarriage, is there ever a funeral?
Usually the hospital disposes of it. No funeral. No cooler to
re-locate.
Why isn't there some sort of service?
Tina
2005-08-31 01:21:35 UTC
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If a pregnancy ends in miscarriage, is there ever a funeral?
Usually the hospital disposes of it. No funeral. No cooler to
re-locate.
Why isn't there some sort of service?
It depends on what the parents want. My sister lost a baby at 5 months
gestation. They took his picture (with cute little woolen hat) and had him
buried in a cemetary as if he were full term.

Tina
Fragile Warrior
2005-08-31 02:11:29 UTC
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If a pregnancy ends in miscarriage, is there ever a funeral?
Usually the hospital disposes of it. No funeral. No cooler to
re-locate.
Why isn't there some sort of service?
It depends on what the parents want. My sister lost a baby at 5 months
gestation. They took his picture (with cute little woolen hat) and had him
buried in a cemetary as if he were full term.
Tina
BTW, sometimes at a baby's funeral the mother and/or father actually hold
the child rather than put them in a casket. Which, to me, it utterly
bizarre.
Fragile Warrior
2005-08-31 02:10:05 UTC
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 06:24:24 GMT, "somebody else"
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If a pregnancy ends in miscarriage, is there ever a funeral?
Usually the hospital disposes of it. No funeral. No cooler to
re-locate.
Depends on the gestational age. I lost one at 10 weeks; it was disposed of
by the hospital.

My cousin lost one at 6 months; she buried the baby with her grandfather.
somebody
2005-08-31 02:23:03 UTC
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If a pregnancy ends in miscarriage, is there ever a funeral?
Usually the hospital disposes of it. No funeral. No cooler to
re-locate.
Depends on the gestational age. I lost one at 10 weeks; it was disposed
of by the hospital.
"disposed of"... what do they do?
Fragile Warrior
2005-08-31 02:28:44 UTC
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If a pregnancy ends in miscarriage, is there ever a funeral?
Usually the hospital disposes of it. No funeral. No cooler to
re-locate.
Depends on the gestational age. I lost one at 10 weeks; it was disposed
of by the hospital.
"disposed of"... what do they do?
Burn it, I think. Don't know. Didn't ask.
Andy Zoff
2005-08-31 13:29:33 UTC
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If a pregnancy ends in miscarriage, is there ever a funeral?
Usually the hospital disposes of it. No funeral. No cooler to
re-locate.
Depends on the gestational age. I lost one at 10 weeks; it was disposed
of by the hospital.
"disposed of"... what do they do?
Think Monty Python: Crackle, crackle, crackle.
somebody
2005-08-31 14:56:52 UTC
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"disposed of"... what do they do?
Think Monty Python: Crackle, crackle, crackle.
have you ever seen the eulogy that Cleese and Idle did for GC?
J.D. Baldwin
2005-08-31 23:01:27 UTC
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If a pregnancy ends in miscarriage, is there ever a funeral?
Here's an interesting article related to that subject:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2005/aug/31/083100058.html
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somebody
2005-09-01 00:30:44 UTC
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If a pregnancy ends in miscarriage, is there ever a funeral?
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2005/aug/31/083100058.html
Thanks for the post. Interesting in a macabre sort of way. But then this
sort of thing happens, and like death nobody usually talks about it. (until
after it happens)

I'm a bit confused that "pro-lifers" don't talk about this. They go nuts
over not doing research on stem cells and say that "life"--actually "human
personhood" begins with conception (of course a human zygote is "alive"; the
question is it a person with the rights of a human person). Why no
discussion over this? If they are going to be consistent, why aren't there
services for spontaneous abortions, miscarriage, etc?

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